Thinking aloud with May 14 updates

Yeah, I was up all night working on these. Go me.

  • Suzen Cooper: The cops have GOT to know who this unidentified third party is. After all, Rachael took a plea deal and one of the conditions of the plea was to be honest with the authorities about what happened (though she claims she doesn’t know where Suzen’s body is). So where is this Mystery Man and why hasn’t he been charged?
  • Tamara Lynn Elbertson: Does anyone know what sort of medical conditions can cause that droopy eye? Maybe a stroke? My mom’s first husband (before she met my dad) has something similar and I was told he was dropped on his head when he was a baby, but I’m not sure that was meant entirely seriously.
  • Kito Royal Felton: Not mentioned in the casefile, but Kito may be one of those people where the line between “missing” and “on the run” is pretty thin. Right around the time he disappeared, a woman and her teenage son, Susan and Laurier Myrick, were shot to death in north Tampa and the articles said Kito was sought for questioning. I don’t think the murder has been solved.
    However, he’s listed as missing both on NamUs and FDLE, he doesn’t have any active warrants that I’m aware of, and he was simply wanted for questioning in the murders, not named as a suspect, so…I dunno.
  • Jared Baptista Germano: I studied his Facebook page pretty carefully. I don’t know what happened to him, but I hope he is missing because he wants to be. Jared had a troubled past and an extensive arrest record in Florida and North Carolina.
    His Facebook is public and is pretty open about his background; it says he studied criminal justice in the educational institution called “prison”. Per Jared’s posts, he had a meth problem, which would explain the arrests. But his Facebook says he had gone through rehab, got clean, was working and was generally trying to make a decent go of it.
    Wherever he is, he’s managed to avoid getting arrested again, which is a significant departure from his prior lifestyle. That could mean he’s leading a law-abiding life somewhere or it could mean he’s dead.
    Incidentally, Jared has a brother who looks JUST LIKE him. The brother also has an arrest record and I thought one of his mug shots was of Jared till I realized one person had neck tattoos and the other didn’t. Then I saw a photo on Jared’s Facebook of him and his brother side my by side and was like, “Ah, okay, here’s your double.”
  • Teresa Gossage and Alfred Hoffman Marshal: I’m very proud of getting these two up because their case is notorious in local history and they’re not listed on ANY database. They’re not even on the Missouri Highway Patrol’s list of missing persons, perhaps because they vanished on federal land. I found their names by accident while looking for something else.
    Fort Leonard Wood, by the way, is some 61,000 thousand acres spread over the Missouri Ozarks. My bet is TC and Al are still somewhere on the base. And I’m pretty sure Mr. Thornton is responsible. It would be a very strange coincidence if he wasn’t.
  • Sarah Necaise: She appears to have an active Facebook page — at least, there’s a page under that name, with a young woman who lives in Mississippi and resembles the missing girl. Hmm. An active page doesn’t necessarily mean they’ve been found.

23 thoughts on “Thinking aloud with May 14 updates

    • Meaghan May 14, 2018 / 1:39 pm

      Just called the NCMEC with all of that. If that’s Sarah’s sister, why is her profile photo the same photo that’s in Sarah’s casefile? I looked at the comments for that photo and there’s no indication that it’s not Shellie, whoever Shellie is. And what about the active Facebook page for Sarah? I hope they get it sorted. They told me the poster photo was provided by her guardian.

      • marsyao May 14, 2018 / 7:46 pm

        And these two girls have 10 mutual friends, so she and that Sarah girl whose Facebook page is active must know each other. Shellie Necaise said she “turnin 18 sep. 23”, so different birthday, certainly not Sarah. so wrong pictures in the missing person casefile?

      • Meaghan May 14, 2018 / 7:47 pm

        You’d think their “guardian” would know which girl was which. This is very puzzling.

  1. Ivana May 14, 2018 / 2:22 pm

    Some types of brain tumors can cause apparently “droopy” eye, or it turns inwards or outwards

    • Meaghan May 14, 2018 / 3:28 pm

      If she has a brain tumor that would explain why she needs medication. Though the medication issue may be entirely unrelated.

      • Ivana May 14, 2018 / 7:26 pm

        In any case she would need medication for that issue. If it is not brain tumor or cancer, it is a neurological disorder – all of them are pretty serious. Her eye appers droopy because some of her facial muscles are paralyzed

      • Meaghan May 14, 2018 / 7:41 pm

        One of my nephews suffered from a serious brain tumor followed by a TBI. He had a lot of problems for years before he died.

  2. Jesse May 14, 2018 / 3:23 pm

    That looks like a lazy eye to me. It’s relevant – if that’s what it is – not only because it’s physically distinctive, but because it can affect things like peripheral vision in the weaker eye and also depth perception. (I have one, although surgery made me look basically normal.)

    • Meaghan May 14, 2018 / 3:24 pm

      I didn’t know lazy eyes could droop. I thought they just pointed in a different direction.

      • Jesse May 14, 2018 / 3:38 pm

        My apologies; I think I got the term wrong. I’d always heard it described as “lazy eye”, but what I’m referring to is ptosis according to Wikipedia.

      • Diamond Lil May 15, 2018 / 2:17 am

        I looked at her photos and thought perhaps a mild form of Bell’s Palsy, however that would not effect the actual eye turning in like that.

        (I have permanent Bell’s since I was 18)

  3. Patrick Kerrigan May 14, 2018 / 3:25 pm

    In regards to Teresa and Alfred since it took place on a military base then it means the military or even the FBI has jurisdiction. The only way civilian authorities may get involved is if they are requested.

    At the VA, we would notify the local police to make a report on missing patient’s. Also, in Illinois we had concurrent jurisdiction. So local authorities can enforce laws and make arrests.

    In certain situations, we would want to charge someone under the federal criminal code. However, the U.S. Attorney’s Office would decline to prosecute and we have to go through Cook County Court System.

    However, we could call in criminal investigators from the Office of Inspector General and they might call in the FBI. We also required to notify them of certain crimes. If they wanted a piece of the investigation.

    With any drug related arrest we were required to notify the DEA.

    So, the case of Alfred and Teresa stays under federal jurisdiction.

    Another problem in federal law enforcement, is who gets the credit. The FBI has had a reputation for claiming all the credit, when other agencies were involved.

    • Meaghan May 14, 2018 / 3:26 pm

      As far as I know only the feds have ever investigated this case, though I admit I’m not clear on jurisdiction. Thornton was prosecuted by the military authorities for his crimes and is now in some federal prison in Arizona.

  4. Patrick Kerrigan May 14, 2018 / 4:43 pm

    According to research a Mussouri Highway Patrol trooper, J.B. King, participated in the investigation of the murders. He is retired as the Sheriff of Pulaski County.

    In fact he is writing a book on the case. Also there is an MP Google group involving some people that were stationed there at Fort Leonard Wood. One of them was Thornton’s supervisor and best friend.

    He said that Thornton was working the day and found Alfred’s vehicle behind the Post Vetinary Clinic. Also Thornton was working the night they disappeared. He normally worked as a Game Warden and turned some empty shell cases, claiming that he shot some rabid animals.

    The supervisor said Thornton destroyed his military career. He also believes he knows where the two might be buried. However the U.S. Army did not want to open old events. So he contacted the FBI and they were not interested. It apoears the U.S. Army forced them not to be bothered.

    The shootings created a major distrust of the Miltary Police at Fort Leonard Wood. Their is a reference to a skeleton found several years later. The is no mention of whether it was identified.

    • Meaghan May 14, 2018 / 4:45 pm

      I found articles about them finding scattered skeletal remains on the base. The body was identified and it was not either of the missing teens. It was a private listed as a deserter. Foul play wasn’t suspected in his death; they think he just got lost and died of exposure.

    • Justin May 14, 2018 / 4:52 pm

      I got on the phone with Army CID detachment at Ft. Leonard Wood and was told CID records there only go back to 2007. I also talked to the main CID and sent them the link to the two webpages on the Charley Project at trying to get them to confirm if they are still missing persons and they said they would look into it. After reading this, I’m not sure if they will get back to me.

      • Meaghan May 14, 2018 / 4:54 pm

        I hate to think that no one at all is investigating. This may be an old case but we all know here that it’s never too late to find answers, with persistence and luck.

  5. Patrick Kerrigan May 14, 2018 / 9:44 pm

    I would think there would be a different minset in the miitary investigators. Also, I would think they would be interested in closing the case, by finding the remains. Also, it would be nice to the remaining family members if they got some closure.

    Also, a little pressure from a Member of Congress, especially on the Armed Services Committee also goes along way to getting the senior military leaders attention.. Then a phne call is made all of a sudden it gets attention.

    So we need to put some pressure on the right people. Sometimes an article in the newspapers that cover the different branches such as Army Times.

    • Meaghan May 14, 2018 / 9:55 pm

      I’m hoping that me putting them up on Charley will spark some interest, even if only online.

      This case seems quite solvable to me. The suspect is still alive. We have an area to search, albeit a large one.

  6. Patrick Kerrigan May 15, 2018 / 10:20 am

    I sent a email to Michelle Tan, managing editor with Military Times in regards to Teresa and Alfred. I also mentioned the book by the formet sheriff of Pulaski County. So maybe they can do a story on a cold case.

    • Meaghan May 15, 2018 / 10:21 am

      I hope they can. It’s sad that this case wasn’t on any databases and I had never heard of it till yesterday.

  7. Melanie March 16, 2019 / 12:59 pm

    In regards to “Tamara Lynn Elbertson” case mention of a “Droopy eye”. I was always curious about “Forrest Whittakers” eye. Because it has progressively gotten worse. He has Left eye “Ptosis” a hereditary form of “Lazy Eye”.

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