Select It Sunday: Timmothy Pitzen

I forget who suggested this, but I promised to do a Select It Sunday for Timmothy James Pitzen, who disappeared from Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin on May 12, 2011 at the age of six. He is missing under unusual circumstances.

Timmothy’s mom, Amy Fry-Pitzen, signed him out of kindergarten and took off with him without telling his dad. They went to the zoo, then to two resorts before checking into a hotel in Rockford, Illinois. The next morning the hotel staff found Amy dead; she’d taken her own life. There was no sign of Timmothy. Amy left notes saying he was being cared for, but she didn’t say where he was or who was taking care of him.

Investigators believe Amy may have been planning her son’s disappearance for months. As to where he is, or if he’s still alive, nobody seems to know.

42 thoughts on “Select It Sunday: Timmothy Pitzen

  1. christie groves November 26, 2017 / 10:44 pm

    Thanks Meaghan, such a sad, disturbing case, what an awful Mother Amy turned out to be, choosing herself and her insecurities over a child and making him part of her demented sad journey. She could have been Human and left him with his Father. I am devastated by this one. 😦

    • marsyao November 27, 2017 / 10:14 am

      I agree with you, and I do not think the boy is alive

      • christie groves November 27, 2017 / 10:51 am

        No he’s not, I think he’s buried in the area her cell pinged where she drove to it was a river or brook or something, I think she buried him there as she had made another trip to that spot previously. She had such mental problems all those marriages and then “Timmothy helped for a while,” and she really didn’t even like his name, who just picks a name they don’t like with their first child, she was awful.

  2. Jessica November 27, 2017 / 12:00 am

    I’ve followed this one from the very start. Heartbreaking. He’s out there somewhere – I pray he”s found – no matter what. Thanks, Meaghan. ~Jessica, WI

  3. Celeste Keenan November 27, 2017 / 12:31 pm

    I think Timmothy is out there somewhere. If what Amy said is true then he must be found and brought back to his father.

  4. Mia November 27, 2017 / 4:16 pm

    It’s a bizarre case, for sure. As a mom of two children, my son very close to Timmothy’s age, my kids’ safety is my number one priority. I can’t imagine planning to end my life (at all, but that’s not the point) without being absolutely sure that they’d be okay. For me, that’s be with their dad and our immediate families. If she’d suffered with mental illness, she might have convinced herself that Timmothy’s dad was a bad person and that both she and their son would be better off “together.” However, I don’t know why she went through all the steps of taking him to indoor water parks and whatnot if she was planning on killing him and then offing herself as well. It just makes zero sense.

    • Meaghan November 27, 2017 / 7:23 pm

      I suppose she wanted them to have a nice time together before her death (and perhaps his). Kids like water parks, don’t they?

      • christie groves November 27, 2017 / 9:10 pm

        I love them and I am 46, I make all my friends go with me during the summer months!

      • Mia November 27, 2017 / 9:20 pm

        Oh yes. My son loves it. It just seems like more of something that you’d do for a child you’re never going to see again, not one you’re going to kill. But who knows what people are thinking?

  5. Christine November 27, 2017 / 5:18 pm

    I remember when this happened. I live about 30 minutes from Rockford, Il. Very sad. I hope he really is still alive.

  6. Doris Mallonee (@dorisday1961) November 27, 2017 / 11:49 pm

    I have followed this from the very beginning! It’s gut wrenching! I do not think he’s alive either. I just hope he didn’t have to suffer. 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻

    • Meaghan November 28, 2017 / 1:11 pm

      Poor woman. I hope there will be justice in her case.

  7. Jessica Pfeiffer November 28, 2017 / 12:06 pm

    I believe if Mom killed Timmothy, then he would’ve been with her – they would’ve been together. She may have been out of her mind, but don’t see her being able to leave her dead baby out in the woods somewhere while she goes off to die in a cozy hotel room.

    • christie November 28, 2017 / 3:12 pm

      Yeah she was a mess and the kids blood was in the car she was a witch. She never should have even had the right to be a parent as her bipolar was so over the top, she didn’t even like Timmothy’s name as I said before, what Mother say’s that? She left him in the woods dead he is not alive. She had looked in those woods with the stream for months, scoping it out as a safe place to kill him without remorse or anyone seeing her. Her own Mother even say’s this about her.

      • terromangerro November 28, 2017 / 6:08 pm

        I am friends with a close family member of the child who confirmed the nosebleed did occur innocently and was a messy one. So, there’s that. Certainly doesn’t prove she didn’t kill him, but the reason given for the blood checks out and was witnessed by others.

  8. Elena November 28, 2017 / 1:08 pm

    I am sure I will get death threats for this, but… it was highly irresponsible on the part of the father to start a family with this severely mentally compromised woman. He knew about her problems… did he think she would magically transform into a great mother for his child? Now the child is dead. I hope he is telling everyone how NOT to choose a wife.

    • Meaghan November 28, 2017 / 1:11 pm

      I don’t think anyone knew how sick she was until after Timmothy disappeared. He may not have known she had depression at all until after he’d already married her and they’d had their son. People suffering from mental illness can hide it frighteningly well.

      • Elena November 28, 2017 / 1:58 pm

        Actually, he knew full well just how messed up she was. John Walsh had a whole episode of “The Hunt” devoted to this case. They even broke up because of her mental illness. Then they got back together once and – ooopsie! – she got pregnant. So, they married. Any attempts to whitewash “accidental pregnancy” do not work with me, as I do not believe for a microsecond that two adults to not know what happens when a penis ejaculates anywhere near a vagina. Unless, of course, said adults use protection, or a woman is over 60 years old.

      • marsyao November 28, 2017 / 2:08 pm

        ELENA, can u give him some slack? Whatever he did wrong in your eyes, has he been punished enough ?

    • Meaghan November 28, 2017 / 6:10 pm

      That kind of talk stops now.

    • Mia November 29, 2017 / 10:48 pm

      Wow. I don’t know if you have kids, Elena, but post-party depression/anxiety and even psychosis is a very real problem that can persist for many years. I have been on antidepressants since the birth of my son almost six years ago. It’s fine to speculate about way happened in this case, but no one could have been prepared for this outcome.

      • Mia November 29, 2017 / 10:49 pm

        Post-partum, not party. Stupid autocorrect.

      • Elena December 1, 2017 / 2:45 pm

        Mia, no, I do not have children, by choice. I know that post-partum depression is a serious disease, and I am really sorry that you have it. I just don’t know what it has to do with the Pitzen’s case, because his mother suffered from bipolar depression since long before she gave birth.

      • Mia December 2, 2017 / 10:25 am

        Elena, having children can really mess with your hormones, sometimes permanently. You combine PPD and another mental disorder like manic-depression (bipolar) and it can be very, very difficult to treat.

  9. terromangerro November 28, 2017 / 6:05 pm

    I have a personal connection with this case; I am friends with a family member (on Timmothy’s side). My friend shared a few things though they (the close family members) don’t know much more than the public does, but one thing is that the alleged nosebleed he had in the family’s car did happen, innocently, and it was a messy one. And also that the mother may have had some ties to a religious cult but unknown exactly which or whom. I have heard there may be a very off the grid group somewhere near Wisconsin Dells.

    And to the person who chastises the father for “starting a family with a mentally ill woman”, you don’t deserve to know the insight I have but suffice to say that there are many layers and sides to living with mental illness and what the father did/didn’t do were never easy black and white decisions. Frankly I’m appalled. Fortunately my friend has heard so much of that crap from strangers already that it no longer has impact.

    • Meaghan November 28, 2017 / 6:10 pm

      I agree with you. Elena, that kind of talk is SERIOUSLY uncalled for. I’ve got a serious mental illness myself and I would never say mentally ill people don’t have the right to be parents. And the responsibility for Timmothy’s disappearance lies with his mother, not his father, who was a victim of her behavior.

      • christie groves November 30, 2017 / 9:41 am

        To be fair Meaghan, this woman was seriously disturbed and she actually had Timmothy to try to make the marriage work and overcome her bipolar disorder, Her Mother was very clear, she did not want a child but tried to be a Mom and as Amy said in her letter, “Timmothy helped for a while” meaning with her bipolar. She was seriously disturbed like Kyron the little boy who is missing in Oregon, like his Step Mother. She really should have been cared for more directly by a physician. Amy’s Mother seems like a solid person and credible. I had a neighbor who had Bipolar Disorder with Multiple Personality disorder and she was awesome and great and one day she turned on me, eventually I had to move from my home of ten years I couldn’t deal with the scenarios she created, several of my neighbors moved out of the Villa do to her, it was taxing and nothing we could do for her but protect ourselves. She had a daughter with the same problems it was bad.

  10. terromangerro November 30, 2017 / 9:39 pm

    It’s easy to say in hindsight that “she actually had Timmothyto try to make the marriage work and overcome her bipolar disorder” but even if those were her only two motives for having a child, that’s not verbalized to the father or anyone in such specific terms. I promise that Amy didn’t sit her husband down one day and say “I want to have a child only to make our marriage work and to cure my bipolar disorder” and her husband replies “okay sure, that makes sense”. While those may truly have been her motivations, she would have instead likely sold her husband on how much she wanted to stay with him, how she was ready for a family, how she would settle down and be a good wife and parent…after the dust settled maybe he and others questioned her true motives, but they cannot be held accountable for wanting to support her and believe in her. Also, someone who grows up with mentally ill relatives comes to believe that some behaviors that the rest of us find to be red flags are just normal, so Timmothy’s father may not have seen things the way we do because his perceptions were different.

    • Elena December 1, 2017 / 2:41 pm

      “The Hunt with John Walsh” tells a story of accidental pregnancy, which compelled the parents to “do the right thing” and get married. Here is a re-cap from CNN:
      “Jim had met Amy at a party, and the two started dating long-distance for a year or so. Early on in their relationship, Amy revealed she struggled with depression. Jim was confident she could learn to better deal with her issues in the embrace of a healthy relationship since Amy first showed symptoms of depression after the divorce with her first husband.
      In 2003, Jim received a call from a hospital in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
      “She had taken some pills, I guess, and [had been] sitting on the edge of the cliff, and supposedly passed out and fell off the cliff,” Jim said.
      The following year, Amy became pregnant — and the couple’s life seemed to turn around dramatically. They married, and on October 18, 2004, Amy delivered a healthy baby boy.”

      Did Jim grow up with mentally ill relatives?

      • christie December 1, 2017 / 6:19 pm

        Yep, as I remember exactly- been what I have been trying to get at, thanks for finding that Elena.

      • terromangerro December 4, 2017 / 9:05 pm

        I talked to my friend after that TV show aired (I knew it was in the works when it was filmed, but the family didn’t know what would actually be in the show until it aired, just like all of us). Let’s just say that interviews were edited heavily (as is the norm in tv). The slant portrayed in an edited episode is often not what the interviewees were expecting. Nobody viewing that episode is seeing all of what was recorded, not by a long shot.

        Also, I’m not sharing any info about the atmosphere around the father’s upbringing with anyone who made such hateful and ridiculous comments as what we’ve seen here.

      • terromangerro December 4, 2017 / 9:19 pm

        Also I forgot to note in my other reply that you really need to look at what you just posted as being reasons why the father should never have had a child with her, and consider how reasonable that idea is by trying to expand it to include everyone in similar situations.

        Look through the entires on Charley Project alone…so many of the entries are of people who “struggled with depression”. Many more also have had episodes of having “taken some pills”. Granted I’m only talking about Charley entries and yes they are missing, but many of them have surviving children who are fine and weren’t harmed.

        Now, look at the general population of all parents. I challenge you to try and start a campaign for recommendation or even legislation that all people who have been diagnosed and treated with depression and who have reportedly overdosed on pills ever in their lives should not procreate.

        See how well that is received.

      • christie groves December 4, 2017 / 9:38 pm

        PS I don’t think the other commenter was trying to be as disrespectful as you think Terromanerro, I think she is just passionate like we all are about finding the human remains of TImmothy and very, upset that such a selfish human such as his Mother Amy would take it upon herself to choose the fate of another living being, how awful. I think what she meant to say and question was that why would someone marry a person who was married that much and with a bad track record for mental illness. There are so many sides to stories and by you judging her and lashing out does none the better. I think we can all agree this was a selfish and a heinous crime, Amy committed and through death she should be held accountable, but thats the good thing about death, your not. Lucky for all those Jackasses that kill and then kill themselves.

  11. Gypsy December 4, 2017 / 9:10 am

    I married a man with a mental illness and had a family with him. We have one adult daughter and three teenage son’s and he us a wonderful father.

    • terromangerro December 4, 2017 / 9:09 pm

      Good for you guys! Per Elena’s logic, if everyone who either has mental illness or is involved with someone who has mental illness were to choose to not have children, there are literally millions of people who wouldn’t exist. Happy, well adjusted, contributing members to society…that if one commenter had her way, would not exist.

      • Meaghan December 4, 2017 / 10:14 pm

        Including me.

      • christie groves December 4, 2017 / 10:17 pm

        I know what you mean Meaghan, my Mom is worse than my Suicidal Depressive Disorder any day. So negative, in fact last night she drove me to buy a bottle of wine, not in the automobile sense but in the sense that her negative banter was just too much. Glad I am not like her like that, it’s really ugly.

    • christie groves December 4, 2017 / 9:15 pm

      Thats very nice, there are some people who can handle it, if I had a loved one I am sure and certain I would do my best, however what I went through with a couple ex’s and my neighbor was awful. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, I never have gotten over it, well best I could but you know what I mean. I myself suffer from severe Depression as Suicide runs on my Fathers side in the Males 2 have died and he suffered from suicidal thoughts until his 30’s, I seem to have got the brunt of it, and am female, but I try to keep going, some day’s are better than others. I can’t say I won’t ever act on the thoughts, but I can say I will always try to keep going until that time if ever, it may not happen. I am 46 now

  12. Kat December 5, 2017 / 10:44 am

    Look, everyone has an opinion about this situation, and everyone is entitled to it, without name calling or blame. Always multiple sides to the story. Personally, whether this kid is alive or not, most likely not, his mother did something very, very wrong. To herself, to him, to his father. Wherever the issues lie, what remains at the end of the day is that this child is missing, has been missing, and ALL energies should go towards recovering him, in whatever form that may be. Props to all of those brave enough to share their stories on here, and continued good thoughts toward everyone involved in this tragic case.

    • Meaghan December 5, 2017 / 10:47 am

      What Kat said. 🙂

      • Kat December 5, 2017 / 9:49 pm

        I’m not trying to be the devil’s advocate, I’m just trying to walk both sides of the line. I DO understand what everyone is saying, however the underlying is, and will ALWAYS be until that child is found, his story. I’ve never been great at stating my opinion maybe because I always can see both sides, but in this case, let’s just all agree to disagree as to cause/effect (affect? I never can get that right) and move on towards a solution. When was the last time his father was interviewed? Do LE have a more recent search area? Etc. Etc. We are all on here for a reason, which is our interest in missing people. Some cases will sadly never be solved but there is hope more and more for cold cases. Maybe this will be one of them………

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