Let’s talk about it: Felicia “Lisa” Weaver

This week’s “let’s talk about it” case is a recent one, Felicia Ann “Lisa” Weaver, who disappeared just a little over two years ago. At the relatively young age of 52 she was in the end stages of COPD, a progressive and incurable breathing condition; she was no longer able to care for herself and her family was considering hospice care. She was living with her ex-husband and three kids at the time of her disappearance, and they were taking care of her.

On the day of Lisa’s disappearance, the house caught fire and burned to the ground, killing the family’s three dogs, but there was no sign of Lisa in the ashes. Last I knew the cause of the fire remained unknown, though I’m sure Lisa’s bottled oxygen was a contributing factor. The police and fire officials don’t think she was at home at the time, but her family said she simply wasn’t physically capable of leaving on her own.

The family’s Facebook page about the case states:

We had every reason to believe that…Lisa Weaver was inside the home at the time of the fire. We still have no reason to believe she left on her own free will. After numerous searches by dozens of firefighters, the State Fire Marshall, as well as cadaver dogs and helicopter it was determined that Lisa was not in the home.

This is quite a peculiar case and I’m not sure a crime occurred, but certainly her family deserves to learn her fate, get her back and bury her decently.

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24 thoughts on “Let’s talk about it: Felicia “Lisa” Weaver

  1. christie groves February 9, 2017 / 11:52 pm

    Wow, how very sad, not only to lose your Mother but three dogs. I am not sure how Alabama works but they did not look hard enough under the rubble, I wonder if they located the remains of her oxygen tank? Her Bed? More than likely she blew up, if she lit a cigarette. It’s really the only way is to light something, a cigarette that would have such a huge affect to ignite the entire house. How truly sad. My Father was a LT. for the FD here in Seattle, and he’s have kept looking, actually my God Parents brother blew up this way, and they found pieces of him but as well, did find the poot family dog hiding. My Friends Father lit a cigarette and same thing his tank blew up but he was scorched and died later. Not to be grim but I am sure she is in the remains somewhere. Very, very sad. ❤ RIP

  2. diamondlil16 February 10, 2017 / 1:27 am

    I’ve had Lisa’s case listed since March of 2015 as my local news aired her story. By February 27, 2015 the Blount County DA said they had a person of interest in the case.
    http://www.cherigriffiths.com/phpbb3/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=156&t=12248

    The facebook page did not have many entries made back in 2016 but I have several of the original news links coverage at the Corner for the Missing.

  3. Celeste Keenan February 10, 2017 / 1:19 pm

    Don’t oxygen tanks have warning labels on them saying explosive or something along those lines?

    • Meaghan February 10, 2017 / 11:45 pm

      Yeah, they’re basically made of explodium.

      My dad is good friends with a guy who has advanced COPD. This guy is severely disabled; he has a hard time walking up a flight of stairs, can’t really go anywhere without assistance and, for example, has meals brought to his home because he can’t go out and get them on his own. But this guy isn’t dying yet. Lisa was dying. Whatever caused her disappearance, she’s certainly dead now.

      • christie groves February 12, 2017 / 12:50 am

        Sorry for your Dads friend, it’s a terrible thing not to be able to breathe. I have asthma- bad and along with not breathing you can get so tired and just want to sleep, I am sure COPD is ten times worse.

    • terromangerro February 13, 2017 / 12:03 pm

      They do. And it makes me wonder about this: there is a casino near my home that I go to sometimes. I also smoke. There is a large designated non-smoking area, and the majority of the casino allows smoking. You wouldn’t believe how many people with oxygen tanks will come sit at a slot machine right next to me while I have a cigarette lit. I don’t know if there’s a type of tank that isn’t as flammable or if they’re just completely uncaring about the issue. And the casino staff allows them in the smoking areas, so I do wonder if it’s not as much a hazard for some of these tanks?

      • Meaghan February 13, 2017 / 4:08 pm

        That’s a dreadful picture you just pictured, all those people with the oxygen tanks and all the smokers.

        My parents are both very much against smoking and my dad said once that he considered it one of his major failings as a parent that all of his sons have smoked at some time in their lives — in fact at least one of them still smokes, and my brother Colin was diagnosed with COPD a few years ago at the ripe old age of 35, almost certainly due to his smoking.

      • Mia February 13, 2017 / 6:37 pm

        Yes! I used to work at a restaurant with outdoor speakers (like Sonic) and there was one lady who came there regularly with her oxygen tank running and her cigarette lit up. I was always nervous taking food out to her. A few years ago, there was an accident near where I lived where a family died in a car fire when someone in the front seat lit up a cigarette with an oxygen tank in the back.

  4. aphra75 February 10, 2017 / 8:29 pm

    Truly bizarre. My best guess is that–if indeed her remains weren’t in the ashes–someone kidnapped her from the house and then set it on fire to make it look like she died in the fire. Why would someone kidnap her? No idea. Maybe it was a random robbery. She wouldn’t be able to fight off an attacker, so someone could have easily just taken her. And because there was a fire, no one would be able to tell if a robbery had taken place, right?

    So that’s my theory: random (or not?) robbery, Lisa was kidnapped by robbers, house was set on fire, and then she was disposed of at a different location? Somewhere far enough away that linking the two incidents together wouldn’t be your first thought.

    This is a real mystery though. Sort of like the Sodder family I guess?

    • marsyao February 10, 2017 / 11:19 pm

      Usually people do not set a fire to cover a robery, they set a fire to cover a murder

    • Meaghan February 10, 2017 / 11:44 pm

      It seems to me there’s four possibilities here, presented in no special order:

      1. Lisa was murdered inside her home by someone who set the house on fire to cover up the homicide.
      2. Lisa was abducted from her home prior to the fire.
      3. Lisa left her home of her own accord prior to the fire.
      4. Lisa died in the fire and her remains have, for whatever reason, been missed.

      • marsyao February 11, 2017 / 9:28 pm

        Lisa was an old woman of a poor family, that could rule out abuduction, she was seriously sick can hardly walk a long distance, that could rule out 3

      • christie groves February 12, 2017 / 12:58 am

        I am going to ask my Father about this case, I’ll get back to everyone, tomorrow or the next day. He was a LT. for the Fire Dept. for 45 years. I am sure he can shed light, but I think she probably lit a cigarette and the tank exploded which at that time, she sadly imploded as well, fortunately she never knew what hit her. But the poor dogs- so awful.

      • Meaghan February 12, 2017 / 11:41 am

        You would think Lisa would be conversant enough on oxygen safety to not light up close to her tanks.

      • christie groves February 12, 2017 / 9:16 pm

        Well, I spoke to my Father who was a LT. in the Fire Sept. here in Seattle for 45 years. He feels this is a case of SHC Spontaneous Human Combustion, he says it’s a fact and he has seen it 3 times in his career. It’s when the chemicals in the body, mainly alcohol and fat of the victim ignite internally and there is no remains left or very few. I found this which lists the similar facts in cases that were examined and it seems spot on for our victim. We just need to know if she was a drinker, usually smoking and drinking go hand in hand, at least back then in her generation.
        “[…]the recorded cases have these things in common:

        the victims are chronic alcoholics;
        they are usually elderly females;
        the body has not burned spontaneously, but some lighted substance has come into contact with it;
        the hands and feet usually fall off;
        the fire has caused very little damage to combustible things in contact with the body;
        the combustion of the body has left a residue of greasy and fetid ashes, very offensive in odour.”[5]

        I hope this helps, my Father also thinks that the FD and Investigators must have been from a rural town or state with not much experience as a big city, where all types of crazy happen 24/7.

      • terromangerro February 13, 2017 / 12:07 pm

        I think there is a remote fifth possibility: that someone helped her commit assisted suicide away from the property. But if someone did this, it’s likely a loved one (or maybe someone she hired to), and I cannot imagine that the person would intentionally set a fire without getting the dogs out first. If she’s like many dog owners, she loved those dogs. Unless she was worried about what would happen to the dogs in the event of her death and thought they’d be better off if they were deceased. Or it’s possible that someone did help her commit suicide off-site and that the fire was just an incredible coincidence, unrelated to this.

      • JF February 14, 2017 / 10:12 pm

        Exact same thought I had – someone maybe helped her commit suicide.

  5. Natalie February 11, 2017 / 2:13 pm

    I think she most probably died in the fire. I don’t know anything about heat/fires/bodies. Is it possible the fire was hot enough that there could be no remains?

    • LM February 12, 2017 / 8:31 am

      It is possible, but the fire would have to burn very hot for a couple of hours or, more.

  6. Gaia227 February 12, 2017 / 1:31 am

    What a strange one. From what I understand it is very hard to completely incinerate a body. It is hard to believe that dozens of firemen searching for her would ALL overlook any remains especially when that is what they were specifically looking for. It kills me about the dogs. Poor things. I am terrified of COPD. What an awful disease. Not being able to breathe is terrifying and to live with that every day is a fate almost worse than death.

  7. Mia February 12, 2017 / 11:46 pm

    Is it possible someone assisted with her suicide? They didn’t want to be caught so they created a diversion – the fire – and went someplace and carried it out?

    • terromangerro February 13, 2017 / 12:10 pm

      I think this is a scenario worth considering, I thought the same thing. But I doubt she’d want her dogs to die in a fire, unless she was afraid of what would happen to them after her death and figured they’d be better off. Or the fire could be a very untimely coincidence and had nothing to do with the assisted suicide.

      • Mia February 13, 2017 / 6:35 pm

        Yeah, that makes sense. I would think if it was planned she would have made arrangements for them. Then again, there could have been a dog door and they ran back inside, or the person who was helping her panicked…? Who knows. If that is the case, all the more reason why “death with dignity” laws should be more widespread than they currently are.

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