Let’s Talk About It: Kristopher Charles Loesch

Yeah, so I’ve decided to turn this “Let’s Talk About It” thing into a feature for as long as I can find strange cases with a lot of twists and turns and unanswered questions. Let’s make it Thursday’s, yeah? Juanita Oxenrider‘s one last week got a decent response so I’ll run with it.

So this Thursday I’d like to talk about Kristopher Charles Loesch. His official place and date of disappearance are given as May 16, 2001 in Post Falls, Idaho, when he was ten, but that’s kind of open to question. In fact, just about everything about Kristopher’s disappearance is open to question.

Whatever the case may be, Kristopher, who had been attending school under an alias name and living with a guardian, dropped out of sight around 2000 or 2001. His school never got any requests to forward his transcripts anywhere else. The guardian was later imprisoned for fraud.

Both of Christopher’s maternal grandparents were murdered in separate incidents in the 1990s, and the authorities think his mother, Tina Loesch, was involved. She was dating another woman, Skye Hanson. In 2008, warrants were issued for the couple’s arrest for the murder of Tina’s mother, and they were broadcast as fugitives on America’s Most Wanted. A few hours later, they killed themselves out in the desert near Tucson, Arizona. They left a very long suicide note saying they were innocent of murder. I’m not sure if the note mentioned Kristopher at all.

It seems the authorities didn’t start looking for Kristopher in earnest until after his mother’s and her girlfriend’s deaths in 2008, by which time he would have been 18. The most recent article I could find on the case dates from 2011; Kristopher’s uncle (Tina’s brother) still hopes for some kind of resolution, both in the murders and in his nephew’s disappearance.

He could be anywhere on this earth. Wherever he is, though, I doubt he’s still alive.

So what do y’all think? I yield the floor to you.

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23 thoughts on “Let’s Talk About It: Kristopher Charles Loesch

  1. Lauren September 22, 2016 / 9:03 am

    I wonder what Christopher’s guardian has to say about his whereabouts. I agree Meaghan, I don’t think he’s alive unfortunately.

  2. Amy September 22, 2016 / 9:30 am

    I have little doubt the Tina and Skye both had a hand in the father and mother’s death. It would just be way to coincidental. Most people don’t experience a single murder in their family, let alone two!

    I assume when Steven Caswell was indicted on money laundering charges Christopher wasn’t in his presence. I’d be curious to know what his answer was when asked (and I assume he was) where Christopher is. Could he have been handed off to someone else? His name changed again? Living a normal life, not actually knowing who he is?

    I would also be curious as to if the six page suicide letter mentioned Christopher at all (again, I am assuming it didn’t)

    I mean really, in my mind, if he is dead, it could have been 4 prime people. Tina, Skye, Steven, or Bradley.

    Maybe Bradley Steckman killed Christopher in retaliation for Tina and Skye reneging on the money they owed him. Maybe they (Tina & Skye) didn’t care. Or maybe they felt if they went to authorities, they would incriminate themselves as being part of the murders of Tina’s parents.

    • Meaghan September 22, 2016 / 5:25 pm

      If Kristopher is alive, perhaps he’s left the country. moved to Canada or whatever, and that’s why there’s no paper trail. He’s he alive here and has run away, maybe he doesn’t realize he’s missing, or maybe just sees no reason to come forward and identify himself.

      Let’s say he IS alive in the U.S. or Canada or somewhere else. He’s 26 years old. He might have a wife and little kids by now, and if he does, chances are his wife has no idea about his past. Perhaps he’s got some kind of job, and/or is enrolled in college (shades of Esther Elizabeth Reed from the Brooke Leigh Henson here). And why should he come home? I don’t see any mention of a biological father in his casefile, so I’m assuming bio-dad was absent. Both his maternal grandparents are murdered, and his mother and her girlfriend are dead too.

      My wife and my new family would be upset that I lied to them. I might get in trouble for identity theft. If I’m in some other country, I might get in trouble for passport fraud and/or deported. If I get deported, I might never see my wife and kids again. Plus there would be news people about it making a nuisance of themselves. It would be a SEVERE disruption in my life — everything that I carefully constructed would be turned upside down, torn to pieces, And it’s not like I have any loving relatives who miss me dearly and would welcome me with open arms.

      So, yeah, I can see why, if he is still alive, he might choose to remain in hiding.

  3. Katie P September 22, 2016 / 3:10 pm

    I don’t know if this qualifies as the sort of strange case you’re talking about, but what about Michael Anthony Hughes? The whole thing with his mom being unidentified for so long & his “dad’s” history make it fascinating to me.

    • Meaghan September 22, 2016 / 4:03 pm

      I might use him sometime for this feature, but I’m not really sure. I mean, we basically know what happened — Franklin Floyd killed him and got rid of the body somewhere. Plus the got has gotten a lot attention on both online forums and in the media; there; even a book written about his mother and himself.

      I’m trying to highlight cases here where there are some very strange “what on earth happened here?” details but which haven’t gotten as much publicity as they should have.

  4. michael w. September 22, 2016 / 3:29 pm

    Sounds like a good idea, “Let’s Talk About It” Thursdays. I don’t think there’s a shortage of cases with many twists and turns here.

    • Meaghan September 22, 2016 / 5:29 pm

      It was my dear friend and Charley Project Irregular Kat’s idea. You can thank her. 🙂

  5. Kat September 22, 2016 / 4:54 pm

    You wouldn’t know until you looked for it, but there are many cases that would qualify for this day feature. It seems the more recent the case, the more details, except for the really prominent ones way back when. And more that don’t really qualify, like Bison Dele and his gf. Not official MPs, but will never be found. That’s a weird case (not listed here, just Wiki it). But people will talk about Dorothy Arnold forever. And Judge Carter.

    • Meaghan September 22, 2016 / 5:04 pm

      Bison disappeared oveseas, so he doesn’t qualify for Charley.

      • Kat September 22, 2016 / 6:08 pm

        I was just talking case specifics, that he was never an MP, just an unsolved case, but one of the more complicated I’ve ever seen. I’m surprised it doesn’t get more coverage, but ocean cases are kind of a forgone conclusion. To this day, one of the only cases that makes me physically sick in the Hawks case.

  6. Kat September 22, 2016 / 6:09 pm

    IS. I’m on a roll tonight.

    • michael w. September 22, 2016 / 10:27 pm

      Speaking about boys likely murdered by their mothers, Kyron Horman’s mom was on Dr. Phil today. Did anybody see that? I caught a few snippets of it. I didn’t get a good vibe off her. At all. Dr. Phil asked her why she was seemingly more occupied with landing a man weeks after Kyron’s disappearance then, you know, trying to find her son.

      • Amy September 23, 2016 / 11:37 am

        Kyron’s mom or his stepmom? I always had suspicions of that stepmom! I don’t usually watch Dr. Phil except for the interviews with Burke Ramsey. Now he gave off odd vibes. He is one strange duck.

  7. diamondlil16 September 23, 2016 / 2:15 pm

    It was Kyron’s step-mother that was interviewed.
    And I agree completely Amy on the Burke Ramsey interview. An odd child and now an odd adult. Lin Wood now is threatening to sue CBS for their special on behalf of Burke, well most everything they presented is plausible.

    • Meaghan September 23, 2016 / 2:40 pm

      I didn’t see the episode. I never watch Dr. Phil and think he’s a charlatan. But as for Burke… well, after the kind of childhood he had — his little sister brutally murdered, the case never solved, the entire family constantly in the spotlight — no wounder he’s a bit “off.”

      • Amy September 23, 2016 / 3:25 pm

        I agree Meaghan, I don’t like him. The interview just had an uncomfortable feel to it. Even though he (Burke) appeared to smile a lot, which by the way made people think he was guilty or guiltier. To me, it was just an I am really uncomfortable with this whole thing type of smile. Some people are just very uncomfortable in the publics eye, myself included.

        Diamond, who is Lin Wood again? I do admit, if I didn’t think it was Burke before the CBS special, I second guessed it after that aired. So I can see why someone is suing. They completely made him look guilty. However, Investigation Discovery also did a 2 or 3 part series on it too, and they actually focused more on the intruder theory.

        I have never made my mind up on that case. I go back and forth, back and forth. I can totally see why they could never bring up charges. There are some really compelling ideas on both sides.

      • diamondlil16 September 23, 2016 / 8:53 pm

        But Burke had several issues prior to the murder. While little JonBenet had problems with bedwetting, her older brother had episodes of playing with and smearing his own feces. You would really have to view the videos of his interviews then and then what adults observed prior and post murder.

      • Meaghan September 24, 2016 / 8:58 am

        Look, I know the Ramsey case fascinates people, but could you all talk about it elsewhere? I’m sure there are entire forums dedicated just to that. This blog post is meant for Kristopher Loesch. I started this “let’s talk about it” thing for intriguing cases that have generally been ignored.

  8. diamondlil16 September 23, 2016 / 9:15 pm

    Amy, Lin Wood has been the long time attorney for the Ramseys. I have the ID on dvr as well as the A&E special yet to watch. So I started with Dr Phil. Some of Burke’s responses did not set well with me. When the crime initially was in the media, I thought intruder. But LE then and Dr Phil now believes that a 9 year old is physically incapable of bashing a 6 year old skull, and apparently many believe that children don’t have sexual experimentation or violations. I think it’s completely possible that person A did x, person B did y, and person C did z. Twenty years ago John denied using, handling the mag light. And apparently this month’s interview he said he did…according to online chatter. I will have to watch again. Everyone denies the da!m pineapple. But only family prints found, not little JonBenet and it doesn’t appear it was force fed.

  9. michael w. September 24, 2016 / 8:43 am

    Ah yes, I meant Kyron’s stepmom, Terri Horman. If you google Kyron Horman, you’ll find a ton of recent articles on the case. And by recent, I mean this week.

    -Terri Horman is now claiming a man in a white truck abducted Kyron. Why she hasn’t mentioned this in the last 6 years is unknown. It’s also unknown why she would feel this way since she apparently didn’t witness the abduction.

    -Terri failed two polygraphs and walked out of a third.

    -Terri has stopped cooperating with investigators.

    -Terri referred to Kyron in the past tense days after his disappearance.

    -A body language expert states that Terri felt a sense of freedom after Kyron disappeared and doesn’t appear to love him.

    -Terri went on Dr. Phil in an attempt to clear her name. She utterly failed in that regard and looked pissed off during the interview.

    With all that being said, coupled with the fact she was the last known person to see Kyron, and that she tried to have her then-husband killed, I don’t think there’s any doubt she was involved. What a scumbag she is.

  10. michael w. September 24, 2016 / 8:45 am

    And yes Meghan, I agree with you about Dr. Phil. He’s a fraud and not even a real doctor. Just another one of the many questionable people Oprah has peddled on us over the years.

    • Meaghan September 24, 2016 / 8:54 am

      I also heard that, when he was still practicing, he lost his license in some state or other for having an “inappropriate” relationship with patient. Dunno if that’s true, though. I could have heard a lie or got Dr. Phil mixed up with someone else.

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