Well, this is just lovely. Three different dates to deal with.

I was about to write up the case of Joan Cecilia Scaggs, missing since 1983 from California, and discovered that although she just got added to the CDOJ database she has been on NamUs (sans photograph) for six years.

The CDOJ says she was last seen on November 12, 1983.

NamUs, in their “case information” has the “date last seen” as September 12, 1983.

In their “circumstances” they say she was last seen on November 11, 1983.

Under “investigating agency” on NamUs they say the date the disappearance was reported was November 12, 1983.

That’s three different dates to work with. Count ’em, three. Now, what am I supposed to do with all of that?

3 thoughts on “Well, this is just lovely. Three different dates to deal with.

  1. Justin July 20, 2015 / 7:49 pm

    Sigh. I’ve seen stuff like that before.

    They have a date when someone last physically laid eyes on the missing person, then they have the date they were last known to be alive, like a telephone call, then they have the date when they were reported missing to law enforcement, who (like the CDOJ) sometimes puts that last date as the missing date. Drives me insane, especially when those dates are years apart.

  2. Peter Henderson Jr. July 21, 2015 / 6:08 am


    The failure to list the last verifiable date a person was seen or had verbal contact with someone is a major fault that takes place sometimes in older or reopened cases.

    Justin; it drives me nuts also.

    My most recent compliant concerns the case off two missing girls from Forestville, California

    According to NamUs MP # 22630, Kerry Ann Graham, 16, was last seen walking downhill from her parents house in Forestville, Sonoma County, California heading to River Road along with a female friend on Monday December 24, 1979.

    The friend has been identified as Francine Marie Trimble, 14. Nothing is known about Francine’s case except for one confusing fact. It is believed that she was in the company of Kerry Ann Graham the day she vanished. .

    Here lies the problem. According to her NamUs profile, MP # 28098, Francine was last seen in Forestville, Sonoma County, California on Saturday December 16, 1978, just over one year earlier.

    Both dates can’t be correct if the girls vanished together.

    If the earlier date, “December 16, 1978,” is correct, then Kerry vanished at 15 and it raises the intriguing possibility that the two unidentified adolescents, long believed to be a boy and a girl, but now known to be two 10 to 20 year old females, Doe Network 131UFCA, (NamUs case file UP # 10447), and Doe Network 111UMCA, (NamUs case file UP # 10450) found north of Santa Rosa near Highway 20 in Willits, Mendocino County, California on July 8, 1979 could be Francine and Kerry.

    Francine Marie Trimble; NamUs MP # 28098 – No picture in NamUs yet ( Carl Koppelman found and provided two pictures. He also told me the NamUs contact person has already been notified.)

  3. Justin July 29, 2015 / 2:25 am

    NamUs just closed out her old entry (try to click on it) and has a new one at https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/28597 with a copy of her California Identification Card in the photos. They cleared up the dates.

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